I am not sure why this is even debated. Knowing, with nicholas cage, is clearly about Scientology. I liked the movie a lot, and being about a religion is not necessarily bad. Ten Commandments was about a religion, Passion of the Christ was about a religion. Just because a movie is about a religion does not mean it is a terrible thing to enjoy and expand your mind with.
Here is proof that Knowing is about Scientology:
Facts:
Knowing means Scientology
Lucinda is born in 1952, year of Scientology creation.
Nicholas Cage is a Scientologist.
Aliens bringing humans to start a new world is how humans got to earth (as Scientology believes).
Speculations:
Story closely resembles “Scientology, A History of Man” by L. Ron Hubbard.
No ad placement. No smoking. No one holding a coke. Nothing. No one would want their ad placement in a Scientology movie.
the symbol of Scientology as the space ships rose into the sky.
What else can you find which links the movie to Scientology?
Jeffrey Knows 
Apr 17, 2009 @ 17:48:01
Why would no one want their ad placemen in a Scientology movie? There was the new Toyota all shiny and good looking the whole time. And lots of closeup shots of the Samsung Cellphone. Even Summit Entertainment needs the money for a production like that… But the fact that it’s a Scientology movie is still true. Cheers!
May 16, 2009 @ 18:03:06
In one of the scenes in the movie, there is a van with the scripture: ‘Jesus is the way, truth, and the life’ on it. It is about Christianity and the rapture and those are four angels spoken about in Revelations. The devil has for eras tried to mimic the bible and Christianity and Scientology is just another attempt by Satan to deceive the multitudes from the truth.
Aug 11, 2009 @ 12:22:04
That wasn’t a Toyota…It was a Ford F150.
Sep 22, 2009 @ 20:06:04
100% Scientology movie, but the great news is , its the exploited perception of christianity and Islamic prophecies,
1. The Four Angels
2. End of the World
3. Earth burning in seconds, Stones, buildings burning like cotton in wind
Propagandas:
* The point that they trying to prove if the aliens are the ones who chose a male n a female to another planet, and start of a new life blah blah
(May The Actual Creator guide them to the right path)
* they trying to portray once die, die foreva…… unless join them……. wow what kind of asses can they b…… they think EE are stupid…….
* EE = Everyone Else is wrong but the one who believes them
2. When Nic calls his dad, says “I got a prophecy and it should be respected” , This is what Scientologists say !
Full ov shit Religious Deception Movie of the Year !
Religious and Belief Exploitation must be stopped through crap unreal movies !
I hope you all would agree ..
Apr 19, 2009 @ 07:26:48
Scientology? I’m Baptist and I clearly see the resemblance to Christianity. Just because you think it’s aliens doesn’t mean it is. I thought the strangers were angels, as described in the Bible, glowing, sexless beings. The children say the message to come with the srangers is for those who hear. There are many others being lifted up at the same time. There are clear Bible references, and any student of the Bible should be able to see the significance of this film as a Biblical piece. I hate the fact that it’s being called a sci-fi thriller though.
May 03, 2009 @ 16:44:13
It’s being called a Sci-Fi thriller because that what it is. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have biblical references, in fact, most movies have some reference to the bible, obvious or not.
Jul 10, 2010 @ 20:41:57
Bob, if you were on staff at FCDC as a supervisor, I knew you and would love to get in touch again!
Jul 12, 2009 @ 18:09:55
How can this be about the rapture when there were those (John’s family for instance) who believed in God and Jesus and were still left behind? The reason the aliens resemble the angels of the Bible is because L. Ron Hubbard believed and taught his followers that the angels of the Bible were in actuality beings from another planet who brought people to Earth. They only left after getting into BIG trouble for mating with the “daughters of men”. According to Hubbard’s writings we are the descendants of these matings.
Sep 09, 2009 @ 13:03:39
The children on earth were what you see taken up!!! Note there was not one kid on the streets in the last scene while he was driving. Children are innocent in the Lords eyes. They can’t knowingly do right or wrong. The people left behind we’re not “Left behind” as many Evang’s talk about. I see the family holding each other and being prepard and saying “this is not the end” The Good will suffer along with the Bad in the last days. Bad things happen to good people. That’s apart of life.
Again that movie was Hollywoods spin on the end of days and there was a lot of mixed Christian faiths, beliefs in this movie. Someone did there homework on this when they wrote the movie script. Hence the Kids being saved and seeming as Adam and Eve. The Tree at the end they ran to means something in an another Faith. It was an interesting movie and I was not upset with it at all. I didn’t get the feeling that was the movie makers plan either.
Apr 19, 2009 @ 17:35:32
The reason this movie could be seen as either a biblical analogy or a reference to scientology is that in principal religions all rely on the belief of those who follow which is why you will read into it what suits you. This said, there is convincing evidence for it being a scientology film…. on a less profound point the ending sucked!!! it could have been amazing, all the ingriedients were there but there’s no banana for this one…. awful. Just awful.
Apr 20, 2009 @ 00:17:38
chris said 4/17/09 at 5:48 pm “There was the new Toyota all shiny and good looking…” It was actually a Mazda 3, but who cares. As for the movie…who cares?
Apr 20, 2009 @ 23:53:36
wow, this movie was slow going and boring from the get go, and the scientology connection was clear from about half way through the movie to me. and the reason mazda and samsung allowed their products to be in the movie, was because some of the higher ups in those two companies are probably scientologists or at least realize that marketing to scientologists when no one else will can prove very profitable, i mean most of the scientologists to my knowledge are well off and prefer to deal within their own little group, so i say go mazda for getting the buck from the nutjobs, as for samsung i own a samsung phone and i hope samsung gets picked up and dropped on some other planet THEY SUCK, almost as much as this movie sucks.
Apr 21, 2009 @ 12:53:07
I’m a Christian but I enjoyed the movie. I believe it seeks to bridge the gap between Scientology and the Abrahamic religions, the natural and the supernatural. The Bible says the second coming will end with fire…the Sun burned up the earth in the movie. The Bible says the sky will open up and the savior will appear…the bright lights of the space ship parted the clouds of the night sky and the aliens appeared in the movie. Angels are messengers of God…the aliens in the movie were relaying messages to the children. Angels as depicted in literature have wings…the beings in the movie had faint silhouettes of wings when they ascended into the ship. The Bible says Gods people will be raptured up into heaven…the aliens raptured up the children. I liked this movie a great deal. It portrayed what I’ve been believing for quite some time.
Jul 09, 2009 @ 15:09:37
Are you serious?!? Ylou did say you are a christian, but after viewing this heretical piece of nonsense, what part did you find to be TRUE BIBLICAL DOCTRINE?!? Where does it say that GOD will send forth HIS aliens in spaceships to rapture children?!? I am sorry, but you really need to look into what you are being taught and the answers are in the BIBLE, plain and simple. The illusion of christianity referrenced in the movie was an attempt to “one-up”, as it were, the true believers in CHRIST. Think about it, his father is/was a pastor, wife passed away and his son believes but he doesn’t so he can not hear the “message/strangers”, the end times theme, finds the picutre of the prophet Ezekiel (referencing Ezekiel 1:4- Ezekiel 3 coming face-to-face with the LORD and the seraphim and wheels angels) and the illusion of angels in the “whispering people/strangers” who bring the “message” to the children, eluding to the children of GOD- the saints; the world being consumed by fire and the rapture of the children to another earth-like planet that has what can be called the “tree of knowledge” reflecting the Garden of Eden by aliens in the form of angels with wings to boot- all this adds up to using true biblical truths as fodder for a film to try and capitalize of christianity as a joke and lesser faith than that of scientology or the acedemic world. Sad and thanks for that tid bit on Cage, did not know he subscribed to that cult following.
Jul 24, 2009 @ 09:53:17
Well said DJDMAN! I agree 100%!
Jul 29, 2009 @ 09:45:19
I do not follow Scientology, but for you to strike it as a cult, shame on you! It’s no more cult like than following a book from 2000 years ago. Get over, people can believe what they like. Certainly if it doesn’t hurt you in any way, there is no reason to be so harsh. You must not be American, because here, we have freedom of religion.
Aug 09, 2009 @ 01:54:10
@Drew: I agree with your points about religion in general and condemn the narrowness of mind that many (though not all) Christians reveal about themselves on these forums in that certain interpretations must follow specific details and that these must be right. However, I will disagree on your minor issue of being American and having freedom of religion. Technically and most certainly legally we do have freedom of religion, but in terms of social appropriateness as dictated by certain local societies all over the entire United States, there are many who are strictly conservative and inflexible about the issue of religion. In fact, the renown atheist Richard Dawkins even made it a point to mention that most of his most vile and despicable hate mail (as well as sentiments) come from the US and not the UK.
Sep 22, 2009 @ 20:09:43
Agree with DJDMAN……
he must b a weak beleiver ! this is what all the Scientology Group based on !
Sep 22, 2009 @ 20:18:06
Freedom of religion is in many religions…… go join Islam then /?????????
Dont tell me u dont know bout ISLAM ??
huh….. u aint kids ny more …… ever thought y r u christian or muslim or jew ? bcoz u were born ther??????? not a good enuf reason
i find things easy when i compare , search and research ….. !
The point is…….. everybdy aint liking this sceintology thingy koz its an illusion type thing tryna make loose ended minds end up like a brainwashed science freak !
although what SCIENCE is ??
Its the knowledge how to get use of the things , materials etc etc The Creator, That can b no one but 1, made…..
we are just getting their knwldge…..
and the ppl who beleive scientology , they are so weak they can swear upon movies 😦
Gosh GETUP GUYSSSSSSS
Jul 10, 2010 @ 21:06:15
Drew, nice reply. Spoken like a true Scientologist. Do your research, it’s a cult.
Apr 24, 2009 @ 05:00:14
The bad thing of a movie on scientology is clearly the message coming across from that movie. This whole “everyone who doesn’t believe (or hear the voices) is damned to die” and the “you must leave your family and come with us in order to survive” is not the message I want to be communicated and taken for granted in a Hollywood movie. This radical view is it what differentiates a religion as Christianity, Islam or Buddhism from a newly created sect. I think the movie is dangerous because it nothing but a peace of well made propaganda.
Jul 29, 2009 @ 09:49:29
Oh JESUS CHRIST! Really? SO,if I’m not a believer in Christianity, then pretty much I am damned to hell for being a non-believer? I suppose if closed minded individuals only go to heaven, I’d rather bask in the sun in hell. I find it quite disturbing that anyone can be so disgustingly critical of others, but don’t hold the same standards to themselves. Take a step back and look at what you believe in before you start throwing stones at glass houses.
Aug 05, 2009 @ 02:07:44
So… I think that was Funkms’ point Drew!!! That new religions are dangerous sometimes because instead of spreading the message of loving your brother they are saying “come with us or die”. He’s not attacking people who dont believe in a religion he’s attacking those who are attacking non-believers DUH!
Dec 05, 2010 @ 19:00:30
You probably mean from glass houses.
Apr 24, 2009 @ 09:54:48
How can anyone claiming to be a “Christian” be OK with Scientology? IT IS A CULT!!!! And the enemy of Christ–who is Satan–loves to confuse and deceive those who believe in God. Do a little research about Scientology and you’ll see the contradictions between this so called religion and Judeo-Christian beliefs. You might as well head down to your local Christian science reading room and get yourself hooked up to the “E-meter” to have a personal “counseling” session (known as “auditing”). IT’S BRAINWASHING–PERIOD… and it’s not Christianity!!!
Jul 14, 2009 @ 22:20:47
So true… Scientology IS a bunch of b.s…. I hated this movie! I only looked this up to see what was up with it’s weirdness and found this. I should’ve known! totally agree though scientology is brainwashing. yet another of the devils poor attempts to get me!
Jul 15, 2009 @ 23:47:33
Im not surprised a Christian is spreading a message of intolerance. Yes, Scientology is a cult and brainwashing but so is Christianity. Both “religions” are as ridiculous as the other and anyone who identifies themselves as part of either set of beliefs is delusional.
Knowing was a great Science Fiction movie….you hear that Science Fiction.
Jul 17, 2009 @ 12:10:36
Im not surprised you are a Christian since you preach nothing but hate and intolerance. I agree that Scientology qualifies as a cult but so does Christianity which aims to start their brainwashing much earlier in life than Scientology.
Knowing was a great Science Fiction movie btw….you hear that Science Fiction.
Jul 23, 2009 @ 01:48:16
Freethinker and Jack- I would like to apologize on behalf of all professing Christians for ever behaving in a way that doesn’t show love and honor toward you. Please forgive us.
I don’t like religion but I love God, and I have found that the only way to know God is through Jesus Christ. God is in a good mood! Please believe me, you are extravagantly loved by God. If only you knew how loved you really are…
Aug 01, 2009 @ 04:29:21
Benjamin Jones is emphatically correct!
Christianity is not a religion, it’s not a cult, it is a way of life. sitting in a seat every sunday at your local church doesn’t make you a Christian, will these so called Christians grace the halls of hell? yes, they will. Will murderers enter the gate’s of heaven? yes, they will. the truth is, the only way to enter heaven is to repent of your sins and accept that Jesus Christ is the son of God and that he died on a cross for our sins, and by accepting him, we are forgiven. we must then live a life honorable to God, the bible says that ‘we are to be holy just as He is holy’ WOW!!. I don’t disagree with the the notion that there are christians who profess they are, but still live a life non-honoring, are these people of a part cult you say? I would have to agree.
but ‘knowing’ was definitey a movie on scientology, yeah sure it was done via a science fiction genre and sure if you squint and look through the haze you maybe able to find reference to biblical end time events. By the way, the tree of knowledge is not biblical per se, its a symbol for knowledge (not necessarily good and evil) its a very ethical symbol – don’t start me on western ethics! the next part, is that christianity requires us to have faith (very different from the prospect of knowing – science can only study the natural, not the supernatural, in fact if you think about – science does not vs God, it simply shows the logical nature of God – since science has no ability to study the supernatural, it has no ‘just’ cause to make an opinion on the subject. Faith according to scripture Hebrews 11:1 ‘is the confident assurance that what we hope for is going to happen, it is the evidence of things we cannot yet see’. wow, does that not stir up all those ‘what if’ questions? in the end, no one can tell you what to believe, but if you make opinions based on false knowledge, be prepared for failure.
let me leave you with this to ponder over,
‘If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are just fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless’ James 1:26
so I urge you, before you make a comment on what you believe, make sure you understand the foundation for it, or otherwise it will be worthless.
Jul 30, 2009 @ 23:35:21
Why is anything non-christian a cult? Why is it that christians go against their favorite book and judge everyone for not thinking the same way? And why can’t a movie come out simply for entertainment without all the crazies calling it a vehicle for satan or whatever is the cool religious term of the month? Go watch Religulous, that actually is about religion, leave Knowing and ET out of the psychobabble please.
Dec 14, 2009 @ 04:24:00
People on this forum should look up “cult” in a dictionary.
There are so many broad sweeping statements here on both sides that it’s sickening.
Nick – if they (the film makers) wanted the psychobabble left out, THEY would have left it out themselves.
Joel – your comment was very well written and thought out calmly.
May 15, 2009 @ 04:31:01
I watched the movie and it is really a scientology brain washing. I’am a christian, and as I watch the movie, the “sun” symbolizes “god”. So, in this movie the “sun-god” concept is being introduce for non-bible reading christians. The “rapture” concept by left behind series was also a proof that this “knowing” movie is a cult propaganda. Remember Matthew 24, Jesus told the disciples that we will suffer the tribulation. But those who will be faithful will be save. The brightness of His glory (Jesus Christ) will burn all the people who doesn’t believe in His return. God bless us all!
May 28, 2009 @ 20:47:58
I just got back from Clearwater Beach, Florida, the capital of Scientology. They’re definitely crazy, but I don’t know if that movie is about SoC. I haven’t heard the Nick Cage connection either. All I know is you are in for trouble if you try to infiltrate their compound as I did. Check out my frightful tale if you like.
Jun 29, 2009 @ 16:39:14
I thought it was a good movie up til that religuolos stuff made it in to a comedy. All religo is dangerous but the cults are extra bad….
Jul 08, 2009 @ 14:37:33
I have watched the movie just now and surprised to see the beliefs in Christianity. I have met Christian group who believe in Johova and they denied the real bible. I am Muslim though I enjoy religious movies. But here, I’d like to say that this movie was not about discussing religions or showing propaganda. Its just a science fiction movie made for just watching and enjoying. It’s is not made for arguing and bringing religions in general discussion. I have enjoyed it much and ending was superb.
Jul 11, 2009 @ 01:09:23
I liked the movie. I was not familiar with the core Scientology beliefs, nor did I know or care that Nicholas Cage was one. I did see lots of Christian teaching references in the movie like the chariot of fire that came to take the kids away, reminded me of the prophesy of Ezekiel and the vehicle with wheels within wheels. I viewed the aliens more as angels because of the wings, but maybe angels are aliens. I happen to believe there are other civilizations out there and I have personally had two UFO sightings in my lifetime. I think there is something to prophetic writings, whether it is in the bible or in the pyramid. There is more to life than our current science can explain… paranormal. I have experienced synchronisity, and on some days instances occurring several times of unbelievable examples. Remote viewing and ESP seem to be other examples that could explain the ability to accurately predict future events. And lastly, since I do believe in UFO’s, I think that the possibility that aliens came to earth to genetically alter apes into humans is a plausible one and does not threaten me in any way or make me want to join the cult of the Scientologists.
Jul 11, 2009 @ 15:14:37
Why do you say there are no ads? What about the NOKIA cellphone and the Apple computers?
Still, it could be a scientologist propaganda film.
And, still, why everybody worries so much about deaths by accident and not about predictable deaths happening everyday due to our unjust economical system? How many people will die today, tomorrow, just because they don’t have food or access to medicine??
Open your eyes, reality is much more complex than blonde aliens and theatrical catastrophes!
Jul 12, 2009 @ 11:22:34
Have you ever tried asking God about things like this.I thought the movie was great, even though it had its moments of doubt, remeber God turns out things for the Good.I did not agree with many of the Movies faults but the warning remains true, I am also not a big fan of the rapture theory, just not enough evidence but what I do know about the end is this, that according to acts 2.35, Luke 20.43 and Isaiah 66.1, it speaks about the enemy being underfoot because of the authority Given to you by the Holy Spirit(that is if you accepts Jesus Christ as lord and saviour and the holy spirit then lives in you)the end wont come but Dude if you are not born again and you did not accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, the sad fact is that you are going to Burn like at the end.!!!!!
You have not because you ask not.
You can be a historian, theologian or have the most esteemed Qualification in Bible whatever blah blah, the Fact remains this THE BIBLE WILL REMAIN A DEAD LETTER TO YOU IF YOU DONT HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT AND HERE IS PROOF.”Who(Holy Spirit) also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.2ND CORINTHIANS 3.6
Jul 18, 2009 @ 01:59:40
Its obvious that this was a scientology movie although it tries to incorporate some christianity. It was a poor attempt at a scientology movie, in my opinion.
Jul 18, 2009 @ 10:40:24
i watched this movie and it had a big impact on me. but, i noticed some descrepancy in the end. i had a feeling that it wasnt rigt and it had a lot of mistakes. i am an orthodox christian and i know that the time and date of the second coming of our God Christ is known only to Father. Furthermore, if you read the revelation you will know that before the second coming of Christ we are going to see a ruling of the fallen,after the whole misery and false prophecy, sekts, Christ will come in his Glory,he will gather his chosen ones, resurect all dead people and give a judgment to all of us.the ones who will give the good answer on his question will recieve eternal life and new transformed bodies which will not see anymore hunger or sikness and will be with Him forever. So let us all think every morning and every evening what was good and bad we did that day, repent for bad behaviour infront of God’s icon and try to avoid sin,ask for forgivness and help on our journey and have on our mind that this life goes quickly and we will be asked one day what did we do with our time on earth? that question will ask our God who already is omnipresent and is always with us. So dont believe in movies, they can confuse our souls, dont believe in false prophets!!!
Jul 19, 2009 @ 03:52:24
There was too ad placement. Did we see enough Macs in this movie? and a Samsung phone, the Toyota Prius,…and more Macs…He has an iMac, and a Macbook at work. BLAH
Jul 26, 2009 @ 00:20:26
Never showed the actual Mac symbol… just throwing that out there.
Oct 21, 2009 @ 06:41:47
That’s just the film industry in general though. Mac lovers to the core. At least all the ones I know.
Jul 19, 2009 @ 05:07:25
until i read some of your comments on this website i have not have muCh idea what is a scientology, it is certain that it is a well developed organisation, with influence in all structures. Key said THAT THEY HAD a poor attempt with the media, which is the most powerfull weapon today the media can turn the innocent people to be a monsters in order to achieve the higher political goals. i wouldnt be worried much about for the sekts in the world, because the people who are strong and reasonable they wont have anything to do with them. it is the mistfurtune for those who are not so strong and they are even dragging the whole families with them, because when the blind men is leading the blind they will both fall in to the holl. or the Homer Simson would say: NA NA NA NA NA L E A D E R, LEADER, L E A D E R.
Jul 23, 2009 @ 01:35:57
“Knowing” is another tool used by the enemy to deceive people. It subtly leads people to believe that the truth found in the Bible is really just a primitive account of extra terrestrial activity. For truth look to Jesus. He is the Creator, He is alive, and He loves you more than you could ever imagine.
Feb 10, 2010 @ 13:55:46
He loves me more than I could ever imagine…..But he will BURN ME TO DEATH if I don’t live my life in a worship mode to follow him…….hypocracy at its greatest. I devote time to homeless shelters and the big brother program. I view myself as a good person. I do not hate anyone, or judge anyone. Yet i hear on here constantly that I better follow or else. It just makes my skin crawl and turns me right off religion in general. I view christianity no different than scientology to be honest.
Jul 25, 2009 @ 09:40:02
Benjamin is right. Christ is our life, as he said:” i am the path,the truth and life. Who follows me will not walk in the dark, but will have the light of a life!
He is our light we have to follow to start living.
Jul 30, 2009 @ 01:46:58
listen. I couldnt read all the posts as I got irrate just reading the report, first in the bible if u read itm you would not have to read much farther then genesis which is the first flippin chapter in the old test, is the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE!!! not the TREE OF LIFE….. I mean WTF? This movie was sooooo about scientology and a completly shadowed dogma using pharsing “bible” truth referencing to hinder any self judgment creating an almost dispicable vision for endoctrinating an already growing non believing populus. Try reading the bible, then the coran, maybe the dianetics book then you will find for yourself just how off the line this movie is. do not allow this kind of propaganda bear false witness on you my brothers and sisters!
Jul 31, 2009 @ 00:28:13
It’s so funny and scarying at the same time to see Christians and Scientologists fighting, like “your religion is a cult, mine is the truth!”. They are like children fighting over which daddy is stronger. The scary part of it is, people like these are rulers of the world, or freak Hollywood actors like Travolta, Cage or Cruise making propaganda of their ridiculous beliefs, profiting Idiocracy.
As Huxley would said, what is going to kill us is what we love the most. Media is the real evil. We don’t need Satan either, we are going to kill ourselves anyway.
Aug 01, 2009 @ 19:48:34
watch the film one more time and you find a lot of the Mazda 3 hatchback.
Aug 04, 2009 @ 00:50:31
Boy that Ford truck sure did handle well.Was that ad placement or what?
You religious folks are just plain goofy.It’s just an F,ing movie and a lousy one at that.
Aug 13, 2009 @ 18:36:27
ok, i’m not usually so opinionated, and yes this was just a terrible movie but i would like to just point something out. Did anyone realise how the trailer promised us a movie full of mystical numbers and history? where did that bit of the story go?
looks like someone wanted to grab our attention with an apparently good story, only to later switch to what cant be described in any other way than Scientology’s idea of religion.
*ahem* brainwashing??
if i didnt know this idea existed already, i surely would have found it extremely cool, which maybe someone did. Scientologists are clever, you must give it to them.
there i said it, sorry.
Aug 30, 2009 @ 11:08:24
Yeah, definitely ad placement by Ford. I remember watching one scene where Cage turns the F-150 into a 180 degree “parking slide” and the final camera shot makes the truck look like its on a showroom floor and I was thinking ‘Nice truck’. My most memorable truck placement was the Dodge truck in TWISTER. That had to put sales through the roof. Anyway, I would love to get started on a Christianity/Scientology angle but the movie blew the ending so bad, I can’t even waste another two minutes of my Sunday morning wanting to talk about it.
Sep 06, 2009 @ 22:40:31
Dude people take movies way too seriously! They are free to interpret anyway you want! But they are strictly for entertainment! Get over it and stop judging others for what they believe everyone is free to believe what they want there is not right or wrong answers to that!
Sep 08, 2009 @ 01:14:38
Coming from an unbiased human being, I thought this movie was great for what it was worth….$3.99 (Note that this is the only unbiased statement I will make.)
I don’t care much for politics, religion, or alien angels that some assume are coming to pick up the ‘chosen ones’. Here’s what I did care about; That sometime in the future, we will be blown to smithereens. Whether it be by the sun or by huge ass rocks that our world will eventually cross paths with such. In my opinion, it will be all worth it because I cannot stand anyone’s religious beliefs, ignorance, and political stature trying to infiltrate my mind.
It is good for me to listen to others, but it honestly feels like one big circus and everyone of you people turn into ‘carnies’ and sucker me into your personal world of lies and deception, with no positive result in the end….Only the aesthetics of life. Which is a hollow shell.
So far, at least in my eyes, all of you fail. As do I in a lot of circumstances. You search for no answers in life other than what was taught to you from years past. We are held back as human beings because of all the ‘carnies’ that lure us in to different earthly worlds(Ex: ALL OF MEDIA, religion, work(slavery), and the like).
To cut this piece of personal frustration short, we must try to live our lives the best possible way we can and just take life and what it has to offer us. And I don’t mean the media, religion, or politics. Rather, us just having a path to our own nirvana and achieving the answers to the paths of our nirvana. I can’t stop all of you from criticizing others on how to obtain it, but you are wasting time on your own efforts to achieve your path. Just let it be and focus on the answers that are given to you so you can follow through with the plan that was given to you. It’s as simple as that.
Here I go wasting my time again when I could be focusing my time on my own life.
Sep 12, 2009 @ 02:53:33
Ok…I am Catholic and I have a firm belief in the religion. Now, I personally think Scientology is strange but calling it a cult it going too far. I’ve read countless posts of so called Christians bad mouthing the Scientologist and complaining.
Here’s what I have to say. If you are Christian and believe it then why do you care what Scientologists say? Stop judging people who do not believe in Christianity. Not everyone will believe the religion.
I do not believe this movie is Satan trying to corrupt judgment. If you have a strong belief in Christianity then Satan should not be able to convince you otherwise through a stupid movie.
I liked this movie, I see Christian and Scientology references product placement what have you. The ending could have been better but it did something Hollywood rarely does. It did not have a bs hero solves everything and everyone is saved and I appluad that. I must admit I saw the ending as Scientologist because of the space ship.
And as to the people who see Christianity as a cult, I apologise for making you believe that. It is not a cult but some of its followers cab make it seem so. In its correct form it is a way of life and we are to try to teach these beliefs to others…but we are not brainwashing and we cannot force you to accept our beliefs…
So summed up: I’m Christian…likes Knowing…Scientology not a cult…Christianity not either…stop judging people for their beliefs
Sep 13, 2009 @ 14:02:26
I don’t think its a huge travesty due to the fact that it is religious, but it is extremely deceptive to string people along and then drop the bomb on people. Really this is just a weak piece of propaganda that people may not even recognize as religious. Overall, it’s just a crappy movie that started well and ended with scientologist views being (pardon the pun) un-knowingly forced down our throat.
Sep 14, 2009 @ 09:10:24
ps there was major ad placement for Dell, every student in his class had one…
Sep 21, 2009 @ 03:30:22
All in all can’t we all have a relationship with god through Jesus and throw the “man made” so call “religions” out? That’s what god wants in any bealifesystem if you look at them all god wants is “us” he wants us to seek him and have a relationship that’s why he created us. He was incompleate without a relationship and we are incomplete without a relation ship I mean look don’t we all look for a spouse at some point or another? And if we don’t find them arnt we incomplte? we find them or not is just like wether we find god or not… Without a relationship with god we are incomplete and without a relationship with us god is incomplete… That’s what it all boils down to : ) see in eternity brothers and sisters
Oct 03, 2009 @ 19:09:48
Where to start?… I have read pretty much all of the comments above, some from Christians, some Scientologists, some neither. I don’t follow any religion, reasons why is not important. What *is* important is people seem to forget that L. Ron Hubbard was a known fantasist/psuedo-scientific story teller. I firmly believe (challenge if you will, but this is not meant to offend anyone) that he was a very clever man who had a ‘theory’, he wrote the book on Dianetics, lots of people bought into it. The fact that we can call Scientology a religion, cult, whatever is rediculous because it was written not 60 years ago! It’s something that doesn’t have proof, sense, meaning… It’s just fiction (in my eyes). The film itself I thought was a stunning display of SFX coupled with Nicholas Cage’s dreary acting but a clever merging of probably several different beliefs that was of course fully intended to get a reaction. The fact that it has so many people talking and debating it says the Director and/or script writer got the exact impact they would have wanted. I’m all for debating beliefs without condemning or blastpheming. I don’t believe in mocking another persons religion but at the same time I like to challenge it. Much like I challenge Scientology. Christianity and all other religions aside, Scientology makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and it just feels like it’s being followed by people, dare I say, who are unexpectant of what they’re buying into. It’s a scary thought that one man and a huge following (monetry more than anything else) from people in the Public Eye. It’s astonishing that when I have heard things said about Dianetics, free Stress Tests in my local town centre, meetings etc… it all boils down to money. Rediculous amounts of money is poured into Scientology on a daily basis, making it a stronger, more effective and extremely powerful machine. And thats all it is. People believing in something because others are doing so, all of whom believe a very creative story by a very convincing Story Teller.
These are only my opinions and they are here to share with you because I have exhausted this type of conversation with people I know.
Please do not take offence to any of this, if you have I apologise and welcome any other comments.
Thanks for your time
Oct 06, 2009 @ 02:32:00
The movie featured a lot of close-ups of a Mac/Apple laptop AND iGoogle …… If that’s not advertisement, then tell what is!
Oct 21, 2009 @ 07:10:14
$cientology has a far different belief than this movie portrays. I did not see any connection.
I thought this movie was the idea that God is a higher being. What if everything that the bible says is true and it’s all real, but the only difference is that God and angels look like “aliens” rather than long beards, white robes, wings etc… What then? The truth is, none of know what God looks like.
Oct 29, 2009 @ 06:53:17
How odd to see all this bantering between the religions…
Now you know how us pagans have felt for years….funny there was no symbols of paganism in the movie
So much hate between all of you…you all think that “yours” is the true faith…show a little respect for each other…what must your God be thinking…that He raised His children to hate like this…I am so glad to be a pagan…and not have to go through all this bantering with each other…people it was a movie…
Feb 02, 2010 @ 16:24:05
Yes. OK. No bad. How can i become a scientologist?
Feb 09, 2010 @ 17:06:44
Hmmmmm…looks like a very close description of Patrick Geryl’s book:”The World Cataclysm in 2012″. A great interview is here at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd-cCeaKrOA
Also seems that there is SO MUCH more to the story of humankind than our government EVER wanted us to know. But there is no stopping it now…thanks for the Internet. And only those that have a “keen” understanding and listen to that voice that says to ALL of us, “look over here…what’s that, why is that, how is that so…?”
With all that is going on…why the HELL should we be slaving along life’s chosen path for us…WORKING for a lie (not a living) all the while staying enslaved and in a trance?
Keep listening to your voice…be well and I’m glad you made it HERE…but keep going!
Mar 25, 2010 @ 12:21:30
Well, this is all very interesting and I just thought I’d toss my two cents in for what its worth.
Firstly, it is very obvious that many of the people commenting on Scientology (both for and against)are thoroughly uneducated in what Scientology is. If you are going to encourage or condemn anything in a public forum, at least have enough respect for the individuals that you are communicating to and about to have some knowledge of the subject. Wild ranting, spewing your assumptions or ‘things you’ve heard’ about something doesn’t do anyone any good and makes you sound like an idiot.
That being said, I do believe Scientology to be a cult. I base this off of an intimate knowledge of the philosophy and practices of their “church”. I was raised as a Scientologist. Scientology is dangerous and can be harmful. They do seek to control people, and they do destroy lives and families. I have seen them do it many times over to many people including myself.
I won’t comment on Christianity because I don’t feel that I have a broad enough knowledge of the religion and it’s various sects to make a well educated statement on it. I will say, however that Christians who get overly worked-up and start attacking others for simply sharing their opinions come across as ignorant and a little crazy. I understand being passionate about your beliefs, but blindly attacking critics is not the way to defend what you believe in. Acting that way sets a poor example for Christianity and does more of a disservice to your beliefs than anything else.
Apr 03, 2010 @ 16:07:03
This is the most ignorant view of Scientology I have seen yet.
Aug 13, 2010 @ 17:51:21
I watched this movie and it was very clear that this was a flick about scientology. If someone wants to follow that “religion” then that is on them. I can’t get mad at that. The thing that frustrated me was that it shows Ezekiel 1 and the prophesy of Gods judgement, and scientologys message was that Christians/ Jews are wrong about who God is. Angels as aliens…. Nick Cage, along with Tom Cruise, Issac Hayes and John Travolta is a scientologist. The Comment to his pastor father “I have a prophesy, and it needs to be respected”. Christianity is mocked through the whole movie. “I am a son of a ‘pastor'” etc. The signs of scientology are all over this movie. I am a Christian. I love all people. non believers, aethiests, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buhdists, and even Scientologists. People complain that Christians preach hate and intolorance but what about the anti Christian intolerant message that scientology is representing in this film? Why is that okay? Two wrongs don’t make a right. And to “Christians” who have seen this film as “biblical truth” you are decieving yourself. This movie is SCIENCE FICTION and that is it.
Oct 23, 2010 @ 06:25:17
If you ask me, it seems like ‘Knowing’ is a bit satirical and more of anti-scientology propaganda.
More importantly, I get fed up of how easily religious feuds between Christians and other believers start up online.
Yes, obviously if you are very pious and follow the Christian scriptures alone then you will be a bit ticked off about false prophecies…but how about love thy neighbour? Practice what you preach guys. Most the arguments between Christians and other beliefs stem out of people being rather selective of what scriptures they choose to follow.
As for scientology, if it works for you, that’s cool with me but it seems to me to be a rather selfish belief, resemblant of the early buddhist beliefs of trying to achieve enlightenment for one self. (not the universal-love kind of Buddhism for any budding Buddhists out there – excuse the pun). In the film it certainly seemed to preach that the brain-washed children will be saved but the loving christians burn up – not exactly a propaganda piece for Scientology, unless you would be quite happy to leave everyone you love behind at the end times.
Oh and just for the record, I’m pretty sure Nicolas Cage is NOT a scientologist. Wasn’t his break with Lisa Marie Presley because he wouldn’t follow her beliefs? In fact, i remember him being very critical of Scientology.
Just everyone, calm down. Life’s too short to stab holes in each others beliefs all the time. Peace out.
Nov 08, 2010 @ 13:34:42
I was born a Christian and I have been greatly inspired by Jesus message of Love. I’m getting sick and tired by all the doomsday scaremongering going on by the media. I’m also deeply resent hearing people say that Jesus didn’t create Christianity, it was Judaism that created it so Christians would serve as slaves and henchmen and fight their wars, since they could not convert the whole world to Judaism, Christianity is nothing more than a servant class of Judaism. That is hogwash! We Christians don’t answer to no-one except Jesus our Lord and Savior. If we help our brothers in Israel, it’s because we CHOOSE to because CHARITY is the highest VIRTUE! I know so ever since I was a young boy in Sunday School! God Bless, AMEN!!!!
Dec 21, 2010 @ 17:16:19
In 1972 Some people came to me and with their minds in front of a big rectangular window showed me a vision of the future which was very similar to this movie Knowing . In this movie they took people up into smaller ships to a larger ship until things settled down on the earth. Now I told some people that were close to me because I didn’t want others to think I was crazy , but as time goes by and now with the fact more and more people believe in UFO’s and people who do speak with their minds I am not so afraid to tell any longer. And especially where this movie Knowing is so much like what I saw way back then in 1972.
Please get in touch with me whom ever believes this has happened to me and if they had similar experiences.
Dec 21, 2010 @ 17:29:22
To be completely honest I believe this movie has everything to do with God and Jesus because he is saving our human kind and also if you have enough Faith you can’t help believe in other planets and things as GOD made the HEAVENS and the EARTH which also means he made other planets also not just ours.
Jan 24, 2011 @ 14:47:16
Comes across as obvious Christian. The taking up of the children is representative, not literal. If you watch closely, you see the wings on the figures who come to take them. You have to remeber how hard it is to make a Christian film anymore. If you tag it as a Christian film, it will likely get nixed. If you don’t, it gets out there, gets seen and gets talked about. Funny, Nic Cage didn’t talk about the religion behind it. Actually, wouldn’t. Most scientologists are quick to put it out there. Very interesting.
Jan 24, 2011 @ 15:03:25
Oh, and Nic Cage is NOT a scientologist. That is why the breakup with Lisa Marie Presley. She is, he isn’t, and he wasn’t converting.